Unicorn Ventures – Advarsel
En række tilfældige danskere er åbenbart blevet kontaktet af sælgere fra firmaet Unicorn Ventures. Firmaet er tydeligvis ude for at fuppe folk – deres område er en form for aktiehandel. Jeg har ikke personligt haft kontakt til dem, men det har Studmuffin, der heldigvis lynhurtigt gennemskuede deres foretagende. Faktisk havde Studmuffin så meget overtaget, at han kørte de nævnte sælgere rundt i manegen til stor underholdning for de læsere der fulgte med på hans blog.
Man kan kun håbe på, at alle andre havde evnerne til at gennemskue svindleriet i tide, men kvag mit arbejde ved jeg, at det ikke er tilfældet. Nogen er gået i fælden – sådan er det altid, desværre. Dette til trods for, at disse selskaber og deres metoder gang på gang er blevet afsløret og beskrevet grundigt – til advarsel og beskyttelse for alle.
Studmuffin ønsker at videregive sagen til de mere etablerede medier for at advare endnu flere. Jeg håber det lykkedes for ham.
Hey, cool at du er med til at sprede ordet
Muff
31 May 07 at 23:33
Hello, i wonder about this society but can’t understand what u said about it could you translate main points in english please
ai
4 Jul 07 at 8:37
Hi ai and thank you for your comment.
My post about Unicorn Ventures is basically a warning about them. They con people into buying fake stocks promising buyers great wealth.
Nobody should do business with them, but instead report their activities to your local police.
Migger
4 Jul 07 at 9:02
Hi
I write this in English though I’m Swedish and understand the danish you written.
I fell for the trick and sent 4 000€ to a bank in Taiwan and I will tell you about the following steps they take. After about 10 days a man called and presented himself as Tony. Helena who I had contact with was on a trining session to advance as she was very good in her business. What this guy suggested to me was to sell my netnetnet-shares at 6.50€ which he could get although the share at the moment was at about 4.50€. The money I should use to buy other shares. However there was a catch, I had to invest another 6 500€. I said “No thanks” but he kept on calling me and finally I told him to send the paperwork. When I received it I send a mail in which I declined his offer. After another 4 days he calls me again and is now angry wondering what I am doing. He has already sold my shares in netnetnet and there is a deficit of 6500 € on my account. I told him that in the contract they have sent me there is a clause that says he must have my written approval to sell shares for me. He claims that is only valid for the very first deal with netnetnet and now he must take this to their “Legal department”. After another 2 days he contacts me again asking if I have changed my mind and will send them the money. He has not taken it to legal as he felt sorry for me. He tries to get an “OK” from me regarding that I shall send the money and I avoid the question. In the end he says I must answer with “Yes” or “No” on if I am going to pay. I say I will try to avoid it with all means and he tells me he will send it to his lawyer in Stockholm. He asks me if that is OK and at that moment I hung up on him. He has phoned me another three times this afternoon but I do not answer when there is a hidden number on the phone.
Anders
4 Jul 07 at 15:44
Thank you migger for your answer,
I come from switzerland and was about to invest in it before i saw those threads here and in studmuffin.dk posts.
I hadn’t time to do the appropriate researches till this morning and now i can establish the following facts:
Unicorn Ventures isn’t registred in the CRC of Lisbon (Commercial Registry).
Their number can’t even be found in the portugish yellow pages.
The building you can see in their website doesn’t match to any of the one existing in Rua Hermano Neves. Their adress mention they are rua Hermano neves 16/17. Number 17 doesn’t exist so far i could search.
It really sound like a swindle. I hope it isn’t for Anders..
Could you tell me Anders if you have tried to order them to sell your shares? If already done what was their answer?
I’ll contact portugish police in the next days to let them know this story. It seems they tried in a lot of european countries. If they are really cheaters, we must try to stop them.
ai
4 Jul 07 at 17:27
@Anders: Im sorry to hear that you’ve transferred that much money to this company and I sincerely hope, that you will be able to at least get some of it back.
A great thanks for your story – as you can see it already helped another possible victim avoiding loosing money.
Im curious though – about the 4000€ you transferred. Did you actually obtain any stocks for this money or are they lost to you. Again thanks for your account.
@ai: Good job doing some research before transferring money. And you add some great points to assist others in avoiding being conned by these people.
Migger
4 Jul 07 at 18:12
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Unicorn Ventures - bedrageriet fortsætter at migger.net
5 Jul 07 at 17:18
ai, by the way you are also in Switzerland ? I have taken some appropriate actions now, I am sure other people in Switerland may have serious problems with UV soon, perhaps we should talk together. I am located Region Lausanne-Geneva, where are you ?
Pål
6 Jul 07 at 9:47
@pal i also live in this area, i give you my mail and i’ll give you my phone in answer: zoio@bluewin.ch
See you soon
ai
6 Jul 07 at 18:05
Hi ai, I sent you an email yesterday evening, you then have all my phone numbers etc. Talk to you soon. Best regards.
Pål
7 Jul 07 at 7:57
So they said to Anders that they would sell (or have sold ? ) his shares for 6.50, much more than market value ? Again yesterday they tried to convince me to buy the same shares at 4.00, much less than market value.
All this sounds really serious, huh ?
Wondering if those who are “buying” shares through U-V are actually owning those shares at any time, or if the money does not just get into someone’s pocket ?
Or perhaps somebody has another explanation ?
Pål
7 Jul 07 at 12:47
Hallo, I’am Austrian and I was called by “Alex Koch” from Unicorn-Ventures, Portugal. The number, he gave me was 351-21-031-0314.
A websearch have given, that the company is not listed in the yellow pages of Portugal and the phone number is used by many other “brokers” or there names. Also the given number often is the main number of the “company”. It seams that the scammers make “shadow textes” for the internet.
He had my Name (always want me on landline) but I never give away my name in combination with the number of the landline.
So I do not know, how “Koch” got my contact datas?!
However I know, that no company have to give something away and if it would be a really deal they would do it alone, with no privat person. – But I didn’t get ride of him, so I was exposed to his speaking. – Always with the aim to never invest ANY CENT! – After the call he wrote me an email, on which I answerd with NO. He called about 30times (befor and after) with “unbekannt” (that means with no number) and so I had an “alarm-trigger” not to pick up the phone so I refused the calls by clicking the “red phone”. At the last call he take to the answerphone in the way of: I will bomb your house, everything will smell like gas and than BOMB!, Hurensohn, Schwuchtel, Wixer etc. I have copied it from the answerphone to my pc for collateral reuse.
Some Keywords (he used in the calls) for searchers: prweb.com, Focus media china, repower systems, netnetnet.tv
I hope this “company” will get their punishment
Thanks for this thread!
hias
4 Aug 07 at 1:36
ps:
He invested in time to speak the threat in an good german way…
hias
4 Aug 07 at 1:43
Warning from Norwegian Financial Supervision Authorities, dated 03 August 2007 :
http://www.kredittilsynet.no/wbch3.exe?ce=18962
Pål
6 Aug 07 at 8:55
I have been contacted by several peoples of Unicorn Ventures, first a lady, then Larry Thompson and now Chris Cooper.
At the first i said them to call me back in october but they still call me very offen and then i accept they offer that is same as indicated by anders. It will be interesting to know if he get back something from his first investment.
I found also a warning in spanish: (http://usa.invertia.com/noticias/noticia.aspx?idNoticia=200708081013_EFE_ET3087&idtel=)
Somebody found some names of some managers of this company. It seems that they have no one official responsible.
marcob
10 Aug 07 at 11:35
fyi i’m leaving in Switzerland too
marcob
10 Aug 07 at 11:47
URGENT URGENT URGENT: need help with UV
Please could you tell me if anyone got their previously invested money back after cancelling the new deal?
We unfortunately fell for their trick and now we are afraid that they will take some legal actions against us and take the money we “agreed” to transfer (luckily we saw the warnings before transferring the rest of the sum)?
What happened to Anders in the end? (if anyone knows him please contact him)
Thanks you in advance
Didi
Didi
21 Aug 07 at 0:15
Hi again
I have not heard anything from UV since I had the threatening conversation on July 4th. I got a phone call from “Hidden number” some days after that phone call which I did not answer. I have givven up on the money I sent them and hope I have got rid of them. I have no intention on contacting them to get my initial money back as I do not think there is much of a chance and as one of our sayings in Sweden says “do not alert the bear that is sleeping”. I am following the messages on migger.net from time to time.
Best regards
Anders
Anders
21 Aug 07 at 11:29
Suggestion to those who are seeking to get their money back or who want to complain :
* Contact your finance and banking supervision authorities in your country.
* Contact your local police who should tell you which is the competent police specialised in international financial matters in your country, that could help you.
* Contact netnetnet TV in Geneva / Switzerland (see their web-site) : They should know who is responsible at UV since they seem to have made some “major deal” together in order for UV to seel their shares.
Pål
22 Aug 07 at 9:01
Hello,
unfortunately I found this discussion too late so like Anders I have made a first investment with UV. BTW I am from Germany.
First I was contacted by a research organisation from India with a survey about investment aims and knowledge. A few weeks later “Laura Burns” from UV called me and told me about NetNetNet.TV but I was not interessted. The next call came from “Markus Schmidt”. He told me he was born in Germany (Hamburg) and he understands a bit German but cannot speak anymore. He called me about five times and finally I have transferred about € 4000 for buying 1000 NetNetNet.TV shares with about 20% discount. In the meantime I had a call from “Alex Koch” who calls himself a very satisfied customer of Mr. Schmidt and just wants to confirm that Mr. Schmidt and UV are reliable. He spoke German and lives in Lodon now. We talked about 15 min.
Markus Schmidt spoke about some new deal with IKEA which is not public so far but has to be published within 90 days. This would last into much higher prices of my shares. I told him that I will take this first investment to proove if everything he told me becomes true.
The next call a couple of weeks later came from “Tony Klien”. Just like Andres he told me that Laura and Markus were on a training session to advance as they were very good in business. The second or third call he asked me to sell my NetNetNet.TV shares at € 5 which would be a profit of about 20%. (The market price at that time was only at 4,20) And he wanted me to reinvest the money in Nano Tech Shares. At that point I aggreed as the 20% profit did sound good and the nano tech deal did also. The buying price was € 2,00. After a few days he called me again and told me about a fantastic offer. He would have a signed contract to sell 15 Million shares of Nano Tech to a fund for a fixed price of 6 Euro per share. And he wanted me to join the deal. I only had to increase my shares to 25.000 which would be the minimum to join. When I told him that I will NOT send him another about 35.000 € he called me again and again allways with another opportunity to join. Another client of him would allow me to join he portfolio for this deal. First I need only 15.000 shares, next time 10.000. etc. Then I wrote him an eMail that I will NOT make a next investment until all given information including the IKEA deal with NetNetNet.TV are approved. After that eMail two days ago there was no contact anymore. I will now after reading this discussion send them the order to transfer my Nano tech shares to my local broker and we will see if and how they will react.
regards
Bluebird
Bluebird
24 Aug 07 at 11:32
Well I am also one of the stupid ones. I bought netnetnet shares twice and then even nanopharm.
In an exchange all my netnetnet shares were transfered to nanopharm (a company which doesn´t produce anything right now afaik)but the figures looked well(as everything looks very professional from UV even my bank managers say so)
Afterwards I was contacted and told that the price for the shares went to 8E per share but I could only sell if i buy another x shares to be part of a big deal. I said I will think about it and I will see if I have the money (which I didn´t have). They send me an invoice anyway which I declined to pay.
Then Mr ROY YOUNG got very upset insulted me via telefon. I told them to sell my shares, they say your account is unsettled. You can´t sell buy whatever until you pay the last deal which I didn´t authorize.
Well right now Mr Young tries that Nanopharm show me proof that i owe shares there. So what ? I will not trade with them any more.
Donnot trade with UV. I tried to call them in Lisbon. Yeah Answering machine. They need sell orders…they don´t need buy orders..funny isn´t it. They also said that they are recording everything.
Right now its a nightmare. I can´t sleep at night and my stomach is cramping steadily.
My money is gone. Period. BTW I didn´t have the lawyer threat yet.
And one more thing. Never talk to people about business in a foreign language if you are not 100% sure you understand everything.
Fleeced sheep
fleeced sheep
5 Sep 07 at 14:47
UV is not to be found in Lisbon Commerce Registries, or in any Phone Directories.
As a matter of fact, this company does not exist.
Therefore this “lawyer threat” is just a bluff, a company that does not exist can not sue you. The problem is, you could not sue either a company which does not exist. Money was transferred to a bank in Taiwan, right ?
UV is now among companies declared not allowed to trade securities, on lists issued by authorities of most European countries, including Portugal. Just google around…
Have you noticed ? Each person reporting about UV (and ARTEMIS FINANCIAL by the way, same story) in the forums is referring to a different name of the contact-person at UV or AF. Who would believe they have such a huge number of employees ?
Google also ARTEMIS-FINANCIAL, see some other forums on the same matter.
Pål
13 Sep 07 at 11:14
Yep scam. Big one and the next company is coming up..called Artemis.
What is funny that they use all the same shares…Netnetnet…
So we have a nice chain…HB Capital Pegasus Unicorn Artemis and Edzell..seems to be pretty well organized. Maybe we stupid ones are financing the mob or even better Al Kaida.
Fleeced sheep
fleeced sheep
13 Sep 07 at 20:13
Hi Fleeced Sheep
By the way are you also in Switzerland ?
I saw your pseudo also in the “Beobachter” Forum on Internet. Here in “Suisse – Romande” there were some articles about UV in the newspapers in July, but still they seem to cause damage…
Pål
14 Sep 07 at 7:36
Austria..and no articles here
but on a different group ONE (1) person got his money back..although he had no idea why. ALL others had problems and no one got a cent back..
Sia
fleeced sheep
14 Sep 07 at 14:15
someone got money back from uv ? what is that different group
batman
14 Sep 07 at 21:40
http://www.tradingideas.de/2006/07/25/transnational-automotive-group-tamg/
read and cry..mostly german but you will sufficient data in English AND that this is not the first time…
Sia
fleeced sheep
15 Sep 07 at 7:07
Artemis Financial are phoning Noreveigans with the same scam. Some bull shit story about “cheap” stocks in netnetnet.tv with huge profit within 12 months.
A warning has been issued by the norwegian authorites.
I just got the second call from Budapest, and have now received an introduction letter by mail.
Stones
Stones
20 Sep 07 at 17:32
I am in the same situation as all of you and took following action:
I called clint in geneva asking for an appointment with Richard Walker ,in my capacity of shareholder of NNN.The answer was that RW will not be back befor 3 weeks.Clint speaks in brocken french and claims to be scottish and australian???? he confirms that their office is on the 3rd floor of 36 Blvd helvetique in geneva.
I suggest that the people who live in this area play the same game and report we will see where it goes.There is nothing wrong for shareholders to go and see the company.You should also ask the date of the next shareholders meeting and the venue.It could be an opportunity to meet the representative of UV and Artemis.
Another way is for people living in this area,to ask the phone company who is the subscriber of the phone no022 7007641
I cantacted by email the chaiman od Incite media that alledgedly has been tacken over by NNN for an amount of Swiss Fr 26 millions.He has not answered yet.I will try to call him as well just to ask if his company actually belongs to NNN.Incitemedia has a cite with the board members,they are a swiss A.G.corp and it could be easier to follow that lead as they seem so far to exist.
Iwill keep you posted of developments
pablo
21 Sep 07 at 6:18
Suggestion :
have a meeting with Clint immediately, do not wait for RW to get back.
Pål
21 Sep 07 at 8:28
I got an answer from incite media but it is from Clint Bauld who confirms that NNN owns inciemedia.It means to me that they all belong to the same group of swindlers. I will keep you posted of my further action with the authorities in switzerland
pablo
22 Sep 07 at 10:32
Hej,Nick from Zürich
Contacted from Artemis financial, Troy Eulberg, Bsc. Hons, Senior Portofolio Specialist, & Monica Serano. Offer 1500 shares NNN.TV à 4 € each. Spoke with liaison officer Michael Dean (yes Michael Dean!=Vice President of Global Equity Trading!see: forum.beobachter.ch) from Allocations Department who after confirmation of my Personal data send me “Bank Transfer Instructions” & Account Opening Forms. Just This: Thanks to all of you!!!
Nick
27 Sep 07 at 14:19
Dear all,
thank you so much. I just prevented my husband to buy shares from NNN.tv via Artemis Financial. This time, the guy from Artemis called himself Mr. AXEL SCHNEIDER (very funny… Germans know that years ago a big real estate swindler named Mr. Schneider had been very active).
However, their story was the same: IKEA contract and another big contract under negotiations… huge share price rises up to 20€ expected…
Thanks!
mini
26 Oct 07 at 18:49
Dear all,
I have invested very heavily into Artemis Financial, and it is now close to Euro 100 000. I am an experienced investor in the Norwegian market, and fell for this scam. Can somebody please help me?
Roy
7 Jan 08 at 13:21
some people are joinig forces here :
http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/
See the latest entries.
pat
7 Jan 08 at 14:10
I bought 10000 share netnetnet.tv Inc from Unicorn Ventures. Just Artemis Financail call me to change the shares for nanopharmtechnologies.
Can somebody please help me.
I live in Austria
wolfgang
22 Apr 08 at 11:42
Lieber Wolfi…
Ich fürchte dein Geld ist futsch.
Und Artemis gibts immer noch ? Das sind Betrüger.
Sia
und check die FMA Webseite…
fleeced sheep
24 Apr 08 at 21:37
Dear all,
yesterday two persons (English and Canadian) were arrested in Holland. According to Swedish television only cheated swedes has lost about 20 000 000 €. I have not any idea whether Unicorn is one of the names under which those two have worked. Most countries has some agency, in Sweden Finansinspektionen, with list of companies one should not deal with. There are hundreds of names, Uniciorn and Artemis are just two.
I think we just can hope that this will stop more people to fall for the scam.
Anders
25 Apr 08 at 8:56
Hi
I’ve also invested in netnetnet.tv thru Artemis. Was stupid not to cheque available web-sites for warnings. The share price is now going down and the saying is that the company is going bankcrupt..I expect loose all my money. Have also been called up by Artemis who advice me to switch my money to nanopharmtechnology. But I have to add more money to save my initial investment. There is no way I will do that! Don’t throw in good money after your ealier folly! Accept your loss and let’s try to get Artemis out of the market and our minds…
emil
6 May 08 at 14:44
Got an email from nanopharm (after 1 year..) where they said that they are a strictly private company and have no ties whith either unicorn or Artemis.
So same scam different name.
Sia
Sia
17 May 08 at 11:40
beware …. now these guys Unicorn Ventures and Artemis have changed to a new company, supposed to be located in Italy :
Fosse-McKenzie
Just google search fosse-mckenzie financial and you will find a quite familiar web – site, quite familiar types of press-releases, …
Bob
12 Jun 08 at 13:12
Hi,
it seems that there is a new player on this market…
HAWKINS & DOYLE
Same shit as Unicorn and the other. They do also not understand when you say NO!!! and keep contacting you over a long period….
So please be carefull with these guys, too.
Kind regard
the blue bird
Bluebird
12 Jun 08 at 14:04
Bluebird,
Do you know what stock they are trying to sell?
Regards
Karsten
Karsten
12 Jun 08 at 14:45
Well
Someone just checked this HAWKINS & DOYLE it seems their website was just created May 9.
Just one comment : when any such company contacts you, ask if they have the necessary official authorization to sell securities in your country. If they are not registered (for instance in Norway, at Kredittilsynet), then just tell them you can not buy anything from them or continue listening to their arguments, since thea are not allowed to sell stock anyway.
Bob
12 Jun 08 at 15:25
and another idea :
just tell them you ar going to report their activity to the banking and finance authority in your country, asking this authority if this is a “serious” company offering you their service or if it is doubtful. I bet they never call you again unless they can prove they are duly registered in your country as a serious banking or finance company complying to all necessary regulations, controls, etc.
Bob
13 Jun 08 at 8:51
@Karsten
ADDITRON TECHNOLOGIES (h**p://www.additrontech.com/) is this time the best investment ever
Regards
the blue bird
Bluebird
13 Jun 08 at 9:28
Hi,
just another idea:
If you do not know these investment companies just “whois” them.
There you can find out when they have registered their domain AND
what is more interesting who is the hoster. A serious investment company will never use a LowBudget hoster.
For Fosse-McKenzie there is Godaddy.com the hoster. Just look at their webside and you will see that this won´t be used be a serious investment company.
Regards
the blue bird
Bluebird
13 Jun 08 at 9:54
And the Additron website is registered by a privacy protecting firm i The Netherlands october 29th 2007. Just like Unicorn, Artemis, McKenzie uses Domains by Proxy in the US. No serious company would use this method. And just like all the others Additron sent out a lot of press releases in the beginning of this year.
Regards
Karsten
Karsten
13 Jun 08 at 10:54
Hi,
HAWKINS & DOYLE, DAVIS MAYER GROUP and THOMAS CASTLE MANAGEMENT
- all these guys are promoting ADDITRON technologies (CTL – coal to liquid
technology).
Unfortunately I have checked the background (venture companies & success stories) too lousy prior to buying a certain amount of shares!
Obviously better to admit a loss of entry capital than to agree to their advise to increase interest in this company.
I agree with bluebird and bob, be careful with these guys.
Regards
Liam
Liam
20 Jun 08 at 12:45
All these so-called “brokers” are in fact purely fictive “companies”, actually they simply do not exist ! There is generally nothing to be found at the address where they claim to be located, or in the best case you would just find a post-box. Their web-sites try to give a false impression about who they really are : purely so-called “boiler room companies”. It is not clear wether the companies in which they try to sell shares are genuine, or if it is all purely fictive as well, the money you are “investing” just getting into someone’s pocket. In any case if you look around on internet where people discuss their investments based on the advice of these boiler-room-brokers that keep calling people, they ALL end up having to admit that their money “invested” is purely and simply lost.
Bob
21 Jun 08 at 7:44
Hi,
and here is the next stupid one.
I was called be Artemis and bought netnetnet.tv shares. Sold them for 6,-€ a share and bought for this nanopharm shares. (like all the others).
Now Mr. Charles Levene called me.
Head of global equity
charles.levene@artemis-financial.com
I have to buy immediately shares from MeTex., then Nonopharm share will dropping down soon and this is the only way to save my invested money.
There is no way, that i will do this shit again!
Unfortunately i have found this side to latte and i will loos my before invested money.
So when we have no chances to get our money back, how can we better warning more people to do not the same stupid things like we did?
Maurice
21 Jun 08 at 11:39
J’ai en ce moment des appels d’une sociéte : Pollia Ventures qui me propose le même type de deal pour 5000$ d’action :
Achat d’action : PANTERA PETROLEUM a un prix de 15% inférieur au cours actuelle. Je présent comme vous une arnaque.
Tous ce traite de façon orale avec des personnes qui parle anglais.
Le processus est le même que celui décrit sur le lien suivant : http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/
je ne donnerai pas suite => mais merci à tous pour vos commentaires qui m’on confirmé mes craintes
herve
25 Jun 08 at 23:50
see also :
http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1141549-71-80/pantera-petroleum-inc-oelfund-im-chaco-basin-paraguay
lots of GERMANS contacted by :
Pollia-Ventures
Kimura-Financial
Fosse-McKenzie
Akeman-Capital
etc….
These fake brokers seem all to belong to the same gang, previously operating under the names Unicorn-Ventures, Artemis-Financial, … Just taking money from people against fake stock, nobody sees their money again.
Pål
27 Jun 08 at 3:27
helo, additron/ hawkins and doyle are now making calls to Singapore. Hawkins and Doyle is fake, brokers sounds filipino or taiwanese, with stupid accent, telling me he is from canada, and working for a company based in philippines and Japan, SCAMMMMM. Additron is fake. Its a scam, dont send any bank details or money, its fake, fake, fake, the website are fake.i cant believe people fall 4 this, but sadly yes, people do fall for it. I sincerely hope for all those who fell for it that u all could get your money back, i wonder whats next after hawkins and doyle, theyll probly change names again
Never give your email adress or handphone numbers, or theyll just keep buggin u
those doing research on this scam i hope u read this thread: Hawkin and Doyle ,FAKE, SCAM, CHEAT, ADDITRON
Cheers
ho, singapore
mr ho
1 Jul 08 at 8:02
Hi there
I just had a conversation with Artemis Finacial. Same procedure: NetNetNet from Unicorn, then Nanopharm and now MeTex….
I guess no more comments….
Bye bye hard earned money
But live goes on and there are much more worst things on the world than money.
Jogy
Jogy
2 Jul 08 at 22:44
Hi,
the only way not to lose money is NOT dealing with Unicorn/Fosse/FosseMcKenzie/Kimura/Additron/Namura etc.
Different names, same guys.
They take your money, and you get a pdf receipt for virtual shares.
If you do not give additional money to raise your account, they become unfriendly, and then hang up and you never see again….
Here an actual warning from Austria, watch different names:
http://www.fma.gv.at/cms/site/EN/warnmeldung_aktuell_liste.html?channel=CH0059
anotherVictim
4 Jul 08 at 13:48
I also bought shares from additron technologies true Hawkins & Doyle. unfortunately I found this website to late and I bought shares. a few weeks later I got a call from Davis Mayer group. I agreed to buy more but then found out they are scam. I didn’t transferred the money. can they do something? I think my first investment is lost anyway. what we can do to stop them. Is there even a chance to get the money back?
Thanks for your help
Chris
chris
6 Jul 08 at 22:56
Hi,
i informed the police in Germany, but say said in advance that there are not many good chances to do anything against a company in Hungary.
I will now wait till I get the final results and after that I will inform all magazines and newspapers which I know to make them more popular as they are in the moment.
Maurice
Maurice
8 Jul 08 at 21:07
The problem is, your “broker” in Hungary does not exist. Not much to do against a “company in Hungary ” that can not even be found.
Bob
9 Jul 08 at 11:59
To all the scammed people,
This broker companies are a big fake. If they find their names to often on google,… they shut down make a new broker company take their victims (only them who do not know that their money is gone) to their new company. They explain for example that in order to handle more big deals for You and other business people they had to merge in the new company name like e.g. kimura-financial, akeman, fosse, …. This is the short story. But what can You do if You are one off the vitims in Europe or the rest of the world. Get the following email adress betrugsopfer@online.de
They are trying to do something against that, but they need as much victims as they can get, including Your Infos. See also
The german forum
http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1141549-111-120/pantera-petroleum-inc-oelfund-im-chaco-basin-paraguay#neuster_beitrag
I promise You all You will never get them alone.
In other discussions you can find the same deals with other names since 2005, but it´s the same method. (I found out France, Norway, Sweden, Austia, Swizerland, and now Germany,…)
Good luck
P.S.: Do not waste time in trying to get information about the brokers in the former named coutnries, You will not find them, the phone numbers (most of them voip) and adresses are faked, do not exist.
galileo123
11 Jul 08 at 17:09
Hi,
I live in Paris, France, and was contacted by POLLIA VENTURES in the end of May…
After they’ve sent me their documents I did some research.
The Telegraphic Transfer Instructions made me really suspicious. (I will never transfer any money to a bank in Taiwan !!) the way they’ve urged me to conclude the transaction : “Monday it will be too late …”
- the company is not registered in Luxembourg.
The web hoster is Godaddy.com, and as Bluebird said : a serious investment company will never use a low budget hoster.
“If you can not prove that you are duly registered in Luxembourg as a serious finance company complying to all necessary regulations, controls, etc. I will report activity to the banking and financial supervision authorities in France and contact the local competent police specialised in international financial matters here.
Waiting to read you.”
Since then it’s a total black-out, never heard about them again…
Carlito
11 Jul 08 at 22:54
Yes you are right this is the way to handle these guys. The sad thing is that not everybody had the reaction like you to make the appropriate research once called by these very convincing “brokers”
By the way have you seen the French forum on these matters ? :
http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/
Bob
12 Jul 08 at 11:59
This is happening in Asia as well. I’m in Singapore, got call from Thomas Castle Maganement introducing Additron Techonologies on it’s Caol-to-Liquid technology…..they call you on different occassion,1st a Junior exec, than their Manager, then they get another guy thier Allocation Officer (who claim that he’s independent person to ensure no fraud…)After you remit, they stop calling you, than sometime later some gys from Davis Mayer Group would call & said that Thomas Castle has appointed them as their transfer agent….they would tell you that a Mutual Fund has agreed to buy 5milion @ $21 each & you being their investor get to buy at $4 each & in 4 week thime you would be getting back money at $21/share. These guys are Pros, they are very good at perstering people & they are well informed…. Beware… Is there any way to get back the initial $ ? I have doubts, any other victims in Singapore or Asia , pls share your case….
LK
1 Aug 08 at 3:49
Got conned first by broker from Hawkins & Doyle. Then Davis Mayer Group. Same modus operati as LK. Thought that these companies are genuine. Did a check on the web for their websites. Looks very professional with press releases on their tie-up with Additron Technologies. Stupid to fail to realise these can also be created by them to give impression of genuine business ventures. Regret that I read all your warnings too late.
Anyway, had reported to the Singapore Police Department (Commercial Affairs Dept)on this. However, the Singapore Police cannot do anything as this is overseas and outside their jurisdiction. Hope no one will be futher conned of their hard earned monies by these international conmen.
Kenneth C
6 Aug 08 at 7:07
Hello,
Seems I am not alone. Same story as LK. Problem is that you want to beleive them as you have allready put alot of cash into this. For me USD 60.000. I am from Norway and would appreciate if anyone has any good ideas on how to get my money back allthough I think its all gone.
KE
6 Aug 08 at 10:34
Hey everybody
They have now started a new scam. This time they say they are from Canada.
Same procedure, a surway in investment.
Typical IP telephony, from anywhere.
To KE
They are always to steps in front of anyone that comes after them.
The Police or other agencies will never be able to take them down.
(at lest not leagely)
Sorry about yor loss
Stones
Stones
7 Aug 08 at 19:58
one must be crazy to send usd60K to some guys just calling on the phone….
Bob
8 Aug 08 at 12:36
Does anyone know or heard of Pollia Ventures,
I was called and asked to made a trade whit them.
Rene
20 Aug 08 at 15:41
@rene
Just read some of the above posts. Pollia is the same as Unicorn, Artemis,
Fosse-McKenzie etc.etc. Boiler Room scam. What country are you from, and what stocks were they trying to trade?
Regards
Karsten
Karsten
20 Aug 08 at 16:58
Hello to everybody,
I was scammed by Unicorn Ventures with Netnetnet.tv shares and NANOpharm shares (in Sept. 2007). I did file a police report but nothing could be done so far.
I am taking action through my brokerage who will be instituting a Class Action in the States on behalf of their clients. If you have queries and or information can be sent to truth@commerceinvestments.us which is an e-mail account they have set up for this purpose.
Michael, Germany
Michael
21 Aug 08 at 9:48
Hello everybody.
After having made a few quick searches on the net I would suggest that everybody should proceed with caution when contacting commerceinvestments.us as suggested above by Michael. Too many warning flags.
Correct me if I´m wrong, Michael, but something is not quite on the level here.
Regards
Karsten
Karsten
21 Aug 08 at 16:31
Davis Mayer are just conmen, why do you fall for us ?
Mark Wright
22 Aug 08 at 12:26
Davis Mayer are international con brokers, now we’re targeting Singapore. As a lot of Singaporean are greedy lot so can con them easily. Go on comment nobody can stop us cnning.
Tom Wilson
22 Aug 08 at 12:40
In today internet, evey web-site can be a fake. Conmen likd Davis Mayer can even make use of other wen-site name to get con money. I was coned when I was young, as I’m greedy thinking of get rick fast. All the above con stories were not new, it just now present in different media and more hi-tech. Everyday there’re many Davis Mayer or Thomas castle telling people how to get rich by attending get rich courses or investment. If money can be easily get, why do people do not know you want to share this wealth with you? Ask even your relative, if they know where to dig gold, will they tell you to join them ? Anyway this con men will get their karma in their latter life. And to those who share their experience, believe you’ll also be blessed for the good deed.
Nobel Edge
22 Aug 08 at 13:13
Agreed to Nobel, there is no free lunch.
Peter Marlow
23 Aug 08 at 14:43
Hi All,
i just been called from somebody from the USA, phone number was
001-41445807413
I would have a big chance to buy now! for 2,59$ Medical Connections shares.
He shows me the shares over the webpage of Yahoo –> Finance and search MCTH.ob
I’m surly will buy nothing, but will inform you!
Hope this will help someone.
Maurice
29 Aug 08 at 14:12
Hi. I have contacted a lot of times by UV, AF and oter companies.
The next name they will use is Portway Capital.
Same shit, new wrapping.
Regards,
Karon
Karon
30 Aug 08 at 15:56
Dear All, I was close to doing what you some of you encountered. That is, falling for an offer which is really “to good to be true” – then it is normally so.. Still, the convincing calls you get put you very close to saying “yes”. Indeed I said “no” but it did not end there so I actually got an invoice payable for an account in Taiwan… Still no formal acceptance from me..
I referred to the terms of agreement which I would need to accept before the first deal was binding. I could not accept them because of some formal mistakes in it – not something I said, there were actually errors written. But of course “the deal was already made and I had to pay”. They could not sell unless I had payed (logic?). By this time I knew it was a fraud and I proposed we should simply split the revenue. I would not play with the fire like that once again…
The I got a new call from someone (even more convincing and more brains) trying to convince by being “my personal contact” that would look after me… In the mean time I looked for the (non-existing) address and tried to call them back (answering machine!). After being very angry with me, they finally stopped calling.
Connecting to the above message, this company was PORTWAY CAPITAL… After some fast (because everythnig should happen now according to the seller) contacts with the authorities there is now an international warning for the company – do a search on google!
I do not wish this to happen for any investor out there. PC even claim to pay money to prevent this type of actions – they are simply using people that believe in their advice.
Wish you luck and be careful!
Kind regards
Daniel
30 Sep 08 at 15:02
Hello everybody,
Those who were ripped off in connection with the NETNETNET case, by “Unicorn Ventures” and / or “Artemis Finacial” :
See the French blog “Ouaza dot com” – Arnaque boursière…., most recent posts are in English : Investigation now being done by the Financial Police in Switzerland, it seems at least some suspects may be located there. Everyone who lost their money should contact the person in charge at the police to describe their case, see all details in the french blog.
And by the way, as it seems other fictive “broker firms” described here above by some of you have operated exactly the same way as UV and AF, it could well be that the same people might be behind them all ( !?!?!) .
It is then suggested that everyone cheated by these fake “companies” contact the person in charge at the police in Switzerland.
Gogol
13 Feb 09 at 9:04
Hi everyone,
Now the NEW FANTASTIC deal seems to be OPTIONS on GOLD, offered by the great company NORTH POINT CAPITAL pretending to be in HONG KONG. BEWARE !!!
Gogol
18 May 09 at 12:16
Now they’re back as Westernfield holdings!! BEWARE. It’s a SCAM!! Scammers operating from Japan. They will keep asking for more $ saying that the credits have increased in value and their consultants will ask u to put in more $$. You will not get your money back!! Report the scam!!!
Beware
4 Jun 09 at 16:50
Everyone, read and can you also post onto “dilligizerII” @yuku.com there much info on all these crooks and board has global coverage
Monty Monlione
11 Jun 09 at 11:17
I’ve also been contacted by westernfield holdings..
first I got a phone-call from “Omega research group”, and it was a lady called Erin Griffin who spoke terrible english and I could not understand what she said really.
The next day some guy called Donald Bradley called me and talked about their carbon exchange and how it is the next big thing and blbalbla. I told him that a general rule I have is that “anything that sounds to good to be true generally is” and he tried to convince me that this is by now way a “get rich quick scheme”.
Anyhow he sent me some more information via mail and urged me to do some resarch on my own, and he will contact me next week. One google of “westerfield holdings scam” sent me to this page. Will be interesting to see what he says next week
Jay
4 Jul 09 at 13:00
These Westernfield Holdings people are definitely scam!
They called me (from a 4 digit number?!) at least 10 times in the last two weeks.
I can sense they are growing impatient now to get my bank details.
But they’ll get Interpol instead.
I kept every details I received from them as well as phone calls conversation on record.
Westernfield holdings people, time to change your website and fake company information again!
You’ll get busted soon enough.
And all you nice people don’t get fooled by crooks calling you out of the blue to promise you big revenues over the phone.
This is unprofessional and of course only people under fictive names and fake companies would do that.
Yves
9 Jul 09 at 12:07
Hi Everyone,
Only just found this correspondence as you do not come up until about the fifth page of Yahoo search on this company (Westernfield).
I was first contacted about ten days ago by “Thomas White”. I think that they may be targeting people who work in the energy industry in the UK. I thought it must be a scam (poor website and lack of proper company details on their documentation) and warned as many people as I could as well as reporting to my local trading standards.
Glad that I have a background in company law. Carbon Credit trading is a new and very imperfect market and just ideal for scammers.
Joseph
Joseph Pestell
20 Jul 09 at 11:53
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the feedback. I was contacted yesterday by Selena Morrison of Westernfield. Thought it seemed suspicious. Will pass on to the authorities.
Just goes to show together we can bet the scammers. Rich
Richard Steele
4 Aug 09 at 9:44
Hi, after reading your comments, i am already a client, do you have any proof in what you are saying? I would be very interested to know?
Gavin
6 Aug 09 at 7:23
Very interested in everyone’s comments on Westernfield Holdings.
Apart from suspicions, does anyone have actual evidence that they are ingenuine.
Matt
Matthew Holt
10 Aug 09 at 17:29
Very interesting. David Lewis from Westernfield has just contacted us and sold us the same spiel, Get in now, unbelievable opportunity. We’re in Australia and got the call from out of the blue. ANYTHING that’s TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, deserves a closer look. Seems they have a long history, so when are people going to wise up and shut them down? If you think getting rich is so easy there would be a lot more rich people in the world. Thanks for getting the word out.
Sam Stringfellow
18 Aug 09 at 5:10
Hi All,
I have too been contacted by “Chris Matthews” of “Western-field” or “Westernfield” claiming that they sell Carbon Credits. They are very convincing and seem very knowledgeable. Takes about wanting me to invest in the $10,000 range as a minimum. Sent me email with covering introduction letter which states they have been in business since 2001, blah blah blah. He even sent a pdf file of his business card with a photo of himself.
He talks of profits for his clients in the vicinity of 120% over the last 6 to 12 months.
Passing this one onto authorities in Australia.
Andrew
21 Aug 09 at 3:48
Hi All,
I have too been contacted by “Chris Matthews” of “Western-field” or “Westernfield” claiming that they sell Carbon Credits. They are very convincing and seem very knowledgeable. Takes about wanting me to invest in the $10,000 range as a minimum. Sent me email with covering introduction letter which states they have been in business since 2001, blah blah blah. He even sent a pdf file of his business card with a photo of himself.
He talks of profits for his clients in the vicinity of 120% over the last 6 to 12 months.
Passing this one onto authorities in Australia.
Andrew Mach
21 Aug 09 at 5:54
Hi,
I also have been talkin to Western Fields for the passed few days, Steve Clarke, who is also saying that Carbon trading will be the next big thing blah blah. I tried to bring me into his database by selling me 750credits at 5.94 Euros per credit.
Sounds too good to be true, and cannot really find any 3rd part web feeds apart from press releases from free news releases on the website written by the same person – Lou Fang.
Im going to ignore this one.
yharees
22 Aug 09 at 22:34
Typical “boiler room scam”…
Just have a look at the “Arnaque Artemis” blog (put this in google and you get there right away). Blog initially in French but many comments in English as well. Most of these boiler room “companies” are discussed there with info from numerous victims.
It seems a gang of fraudsters are just popping up regularly with new “companies” and new “fantastic opportunities” in which to invest : It is just all fake and lots of people seem to be fooled by these guys who are indeed quite convincing when they first call…
Advice :
STAY AWAY from these guys !
Those who have already sent money : Do not for any reason they may give you, send any more funds ! Whatever amounts sent, end up being lost forever.
Gogol
24 Aug 09 at 9:33
By the way :
The Westernfield Web-Site was created May 20, 2009.
If you search through internet, you find a lot of “press – releases” from Westernfield. This is a trick that all these “companies” use to create confidence,and to drawn forums and blogs like this one. But…. Look a little closer, none of these “press – releases” is older than May this year.
Typical SCAM.
Gogol
24 Aug 09 at 13:59
They’re in the UK too now, have been contacted, again, by omega research first of all and then westernfield. Spread the word. Pretty convincing on the phone. No doubt I’ll keep getting calls from them as I still do for land banking schemes (a UK website to look at if you’re approached in this area is http://www.propertyscam.org.uk/). avoid like the plague.
Richard
26 Aug 09 at 16:52
Here in New Zealand, I was contacted by Westernfield Holdings calling from an office in Tokyo.
Initially, I was interested to know a little more about Carbon Credit Trading etc as I perceived it to perhaps be a new investment vehicle.
I was called by a Scotsman and he appeared to be knowledgeable on his subject (but then I knew very little) and we spoke on three occasions, plus, I received (at my request) some brief faxed information.
The biggest giveaway for me was the somewhat amateurish website, spelling errors, family profiles (no relevance to an investor in my view) etc etc.
Then I “Googled” the company which exercise did not inspire any additional confidence, and, at the same time I came across this website which has proved most helpful.
On receiving my third call,(I had been asked to come up with a decision by the end of the week) I challenged him directly on aspects of his operation, and, what I had researched. It was at this time he switched modes altogether saying he could see that this was not for me, he was very busy and needed to go, terminating his call very quickly.
I feel for anyone who has been “taken” by these people, or, any similar scams mentioned above.
Here in NZ, we have had around 23 Finance Companies collapse within the last 3 years, many individuals had their life savings in these, chasing the enticing interest rates, and,the companies were using celebrities in their TV ads to endorse their investment terms.
With the global financial crisis, these companies eventually found their inward funds starting to dry up, their operating costs could not be met and they could not cope with the run of withdrawals etc. There is much more to this, of course, many investors funds were in property projects that have stalled or failed and created one heck of a mess to sort out.
Best wishes to all!
Mike
31 Aug 09 at 23:49
Got a call today from a James Richards at Western-field, giving me a good spiel.
Thank god for the Internet!
Terry
3 Sep 09 at 13:16
Hi there, I am writing from Australia,
I got my first call from Bevan (a Scot) from Westfield Holdings about two weeks ago. He had all the contact details of my company and requested I do my research on Carbon credits, for which he’d have the great offer to make once I’d done my research.
We arranged a date when he would call again, and he did. He never missed a time arranged; talked to him several times, and nearly jumped into the business venture.
It felt to good to be true, so I did some research also: Choice magazine Australia did an article for “polluters”/ people choosing to offet their carbon pollution, in which they differentiated carbon credit standards: http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106514&catId=100285&tid=100008&p=2&title=Carbon+offsets+compared.
You’ll see in there the distinctions between different carbon offset accreditatins, which Westfield holdings doesn’t explain clearly or distinguish between on their homepage.
Bevan had also passed me on to Alex Barclay at some point, who meant to be Bevan’s supervisor. Alex was another Scot (the phone connection was worse now, I wondered if it even was the same person) and checked some personal details I’d given to Bevan.
Alex then e-mailed me the paperwork to open my account with them, including an invoice over the Carbon credits I had verbally agreed to buy.
I haven’t sent back any paperwork and thus got away unharmed; but is was really close. They are very professional on the phone, and have “good reasons/ explanations ” why they do offers like they do. (That their company will only grow if they can gain new customers for the future, that is why they will make me a good return on 12000 or 6000 Euro; which will gain my trust to recommend them to other people and make bigger investments myself.)
Good luck to everyone out there dealing with these guys.
May your losses be minimal or be prevented at all.
Roger
Roger
7 Sep 09 at 4:44
beware,
It seems a trick these guys are using, is to give a different name of the caller, to each person they call. Then when someone reports about receiving their calls on forums like this one, they know who is actually posting.
Gogol
7 Sep 09 at 15:30
Attention DANGER
Une société du nom de “World Wide Wealth Management” qui prétend se trouver à Hong Kong, appelle des particuliers afin de proposer des titres dans une société du nom de “Center Focus Media”.
Argumentation semblable à celle des autres “brokers” dont il est question ci-dessus sur ce blog.
Sites internet :
www dot worldwidewealth dot com dot hk
www dot centerfocusmedia dot com
Si ils vous appellent :
VIGILANCE !!!! Rien ne prouve que ceci soit une offre sérieuse et honnète, voir les nombreux cas de fraudes décrits aussi dans le site “arnaque artemis”.
Rien ne prouve que WWWM existe réellement.
Rien ne prouve que ceci ne soit autre qu’une stratégie “Pump and Dump”…
Les DEUX sites internet mentionnés ci-dessus, ont été créés en juillet 2009 seulement.
Leur serveur ne se trouve pas à Hong Kong mais en Californie.
Y a -t-il trace de ces deux “sociétés ” sur Internet, avant juillet 2009 ?
à vous de juger !!!!!
Pierre-et-le-loup
9 Sep 09 at 10:28
hi guys!. just received this email today…..
Dear Mr.Scholey,
It was a pleasure speaking with you again today. I hope you now have a better understanding of how trading in the carbon credit market can be beneficial to you.
As i mentioned before we will be financing and funding one of the projects shortly. Once i have projections on what i feel we can make from the project i will get back to you.
In the meantime please find below the link to our market research report and brochure that you will find interesting and please continue to do your due diligence regarding VERs.
http://western-field.com/downloads/WesternField-Report-2009-Q3.pdf
http://www.western-field.com/downloads/Sustainable-Forestry.pdf
Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind Regards,
Chris Matthews
Consultant
Tel: 81-3-4520-9532
Fax: 81-3-4496-6474
Email: c.matthews@western-field.com
Website: http://www.western-field.com
his pdf did not load. and i note westenfiled (filed) as their name on a page on their website! seams they had so much to type in they cant even spell check.
be afraid…these sound like mgb’s (money grabbing bastards)
gonna blog and mention my website bout this skammer
colin scholey
9 Sep 09 at 17:09
I had several calls over the last 2 days from “Jeremy Scott” from Westernfield Holdings. He spoke with a fake posh English accent. He persistently wanted to speak to my boss – we are in the resources industry. As I’m an old boiler and I’ve seen most of these cons several times around, I was immediately suspicious when “Jeremy” said it was a personal business call. I told him I needed more information before I could out him through to my boss as he’s a “very busy man” and only takes calls by appointment. “Jeremy” was somewhat miffed at this and replied “Oh Christ!! If it’s going to be that fu****g difficult I won’t bother”. This is not the bahaviour of a professional, credible businessman. Then I googled Westernfield and found this page, amongst others. Avoid these scammers – they’re nothing but thieves, conmen and liars.
missfiggy
22 Sep 09 at 5:55
PS “Jeremy Scott” said he was calling from Japan and that it was vitally important that he speak to my boss.
missfiggy
22 Sep 09 at 5:57
found following on a Thai Newspaper site :
The Nation, 19 09 2009
6 foreigners arrested in online investment scam
Crime Suppression Division police have arrested four Britons, a Filipino woman and a French man for having allegedly deceiving foreign investors to buy stocks online and cheated them.
Pol Maj Gen Panya Mamen, deputy Central Investigation Bureau commissioner, said the six foreigners were arrested at a house on Soi Thonglor while deceiving foreigners to invest in stock markets through Internet.
Police seized seven desktop computers, six notebook computers and 31 mobile phones from the house.
Information from the seized computers showed that they had deceived the investors to invest over Bt100 million in fake firms.
The foreigners claimed that they were hired by a man identified only as Paul for Bt30,000 to Bt50,000 a month to make phone calls.
Buzzman
22 Sep 09 at 18:14
Hi,
Westernfield Holdings are in the UK as well. Shall reply with a link to this web page I think, and inform the local authorities.
matt beresford
29 Sep 09 at 3:02
On estime à prés d’une centaine de français et près d’un millier d’anglophone travaillant actuellement dans ces sociétés de finance véreuses nommées communément ‘ Boiler Room ‘. Leur quartier général se situe à Bangkok. Ils existent aussi des ramifications en Malaisie et au Philippine.
Apres avoir dévalisé l’Australie de plusieurs milliards de $ australiens, l’Angleterre évalue à plus 500 millions de $ de fraude par an. La France depuis plus un an recense une augmentation constante de plainte.
La plupart de ces sociétés utilisent principalement des comptes bancaires a Hongkong, Taiwan et Chypre. Le compte bancaire est rarement en rapport avec le nom de la société. Pour faire durer la longévité d’une société, ils utiliseront successivement différents comptes bancaires.
Téléphone et fax sont loués et les appels sont transférés sur des mobiles. Il existe rarement plus d’une ou deux lignes téléphoniques. Les mails sont envoyés grâce à des ‘proxy’ qui cachent leur réel IP.
La démarche se divise en trois étapes : un télémarketeur démarche les clients en premier lieu et cible le prospect. Ensuite une deuxième personne rappelle le client et se charge d’ouvrir un compte pour le client. Enfin, une troisième personne se chargera de faire réinvestir le client après avoir gagner sa confiance.
Plusieurs arrestations grâce à l’appuis d’Interpol ont eu lieu ce mois de septembre a Bangkok. Une myriade de micro-société se situerait dans des appartements du centre bangkokien entre Sukhumvit et Lumpini et sont actuellement sous investigations. Ces voyous anglophones et français connus de la communauté bangkokienne ne se cachent nullement grâce à une protection rapprochée de détectives et de garde du corps thaïlandais. De nombreuses personnes ont été identifiées grâce aux vidéo et leurs anges gardiens n’ont pas manqué de les dénoncé aussitôt pris.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/30112593/6-foreigners-arrested-in-online-investment-scam
ARNAQUE BOURSE Arnaque-boursière
29 Sep 09 at 23:23
All these guys are in Bangkok. Same team of JOHN MARTIN KELLY
One of the other boss is almost 2 meters probably irish or british
SQUAL
4 Oct 09 at 11:02
Hello everybody following this thread. I am happy to see that so many have contributed even though my initial post was in Danish. I have never been in contact with these people, so I dont have any personal experiences to share, but I am grateful that so many of you are willing to share your encounters and incidents with these fraudsters. I hope that those of you who have lost money will recover.
Now I do have some new developments to report.
This morning two new comments were posted in the thread. I have to approve the comments before they are visible on the site, and these two comments were very different in the matter that they praised Westernfield Holdings as being legit and good business partners.
Obviously I didn’t approve the comments right away. Shortly after I was contacted via the instant message button available on the frontpage of this blog. A person started complaining why his comment didn’t show.
Let me just mention that both comments originated from Bangkok IP-addresses.
Below I will give you the two comments and below that the instant message chat I had with the “unknown” poster:
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COMMENT 1
If you just dropped by this thread please be very careful before trusting the following statement:
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Posted by: Wind in the air
IP: 124.157.185.179
e-mail: sukida_uk@hotmail.com
i made a small investment with westernfield and i found no problems with getting moneys back
but i do have another investment running at the moment and yes i have had a second call and bought more as they do not give me any problems
i am from the UK and so far i have made and received money from them via swift
i did make a profit with no problems
it does help to listen and understand the spoken words in the deal then you can see as plain as th nose on your face it really works great
i love the carbon trading its so easssssssy to really make money
i hope this does help
i have now been with them for 2 years to date and i will not disclose any profits made
but just to say i am very happy so far
many thanks
wind in the air
rock on westernfield holdings
and thank you for trading start
good luck from me
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COMMENT 2
If you just dropped by this thread please be very careful before trusting the following statement:
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Posted by: cricket king
IP: 112.142.233.26
e-mail: new_brand62@yahoo.com
i have had some good times with westernfield holdings
i did invest with them im from australia
it did take 3/4 weeks for the money to reach my bank but i got paid and i am very happy
hope they call again soon
or at least an email
i wouldn’t mind a second shot at this anybody got price’s here
many thanks
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And here goes the chat – notice how he threatens the existence of this blog in the end:
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Guest has joined.
Guest: why has my post been deleted
i know the truth can hurt
but this blog is about truth and i do invest with this company
so i shall start my own blog and then post a blog on this site as head hunting
??????
Sent at 10:49 AM on Monday
Guest: suprise surprise no reply
Sent at 10:50 AM on Monday
me: hi
didnt see your message before now
Guest: ok
me: your reply hasn’t been deleted, but it hasnt been approved either
which comment did you post?
Guest: i posted a success story here that was true
im from uk and have dealt with these people westernfield holdings for 2 years
me: ok – well all input is welcome – where in the UK are you from?
Guest: and on a true note i think they are good to me
cardiff
canton
do you know cardiff
??
me: what name did you write the comment under – I receive a lot of comments on this subject
Guest: wind of something
i didnt post real name
but some people are scared of the truth as some people make money
life is one big chance and i made the gamble and won
Sent at 10:59 AM on Monday
Guest: sukida_uk@hotmail.com is the email
Sent at 11:01 AM on Monday
me: please dont waste my time
your IP goes out to Thailand
and so does several posting of yours
call room database (bangkok)
2009-08-24T02:46:31 07:00
i have call room database’s
if you want data for your room
please email with a contact number and name i shall call you back
tell me in short via email what you need and where you need it from and all your dreams might come true
terms of deal to be arranged with payments
all prices depending on size and what is requested at time of sale
please email sukida_uk@hotmail.com
Sent at 11:08 AM on Monday
Guest: what the hell are you talking about
i did get this email hacked once
where is that data
and it was frozen by msn until i got it back
Sent at 11:12 AM on Monday
Guest: so its clear when i got hacked thats where it came from
they also had my paypal and goldpay accounts
so now i want to know where they are from
Sent at 11:15 AM on Monday
me: You have wasted enough of my time. Goodbye.
Guest: bull ill list your site for you
byebye
this blog will be dead real soon
Guest has left.
Migger
2 Nov 09 at 12:58
Concerning netnetnet.tv and the blog “Arnaque Boursiere” and the following people who posted on this blog notably “client lostitall”;”stones”;”buzz”;”gogol”;”sick of the lies”; and “scammed bynetnetnet.tv I was invited by the Geneva police to come for an interview on the 29th October 2009 where I was informed that Edward James Fitzpatrick had filed a complaint as I understood it, against the blog and certain users of which I am one with a Swiss email address which was easily traced back to me. I have not yet seen the complaint but should be able to do so soon when my deposition is registered by the Geneva “parquet” It seems therefore that the blog had an effect in him and one thing I have understood is that he is no longer resident in Switzerland.
To the person who has filed a complaint in Geneva against Fitzpatrick I would be happy to share any information I may have about him with you if you feel it would be useful, so feel free to contact me at monty1@tele2.ch
monty monlione
2 Nov 09 at 17:15
Looks like they’re still at it, this was sent to my father in the UK on Friday 6th (shortly after he was targetted by another scammer – Anderson Munro).
Am in the process of reporting both companies to City of London police and FSA.
This email is identical to one above sent over 2 months ago to another poster – clearly they are STILL ‘shortly to finance a deal’
Dear Mr. NNNNNNNN
It was a pleasure speaking with you again today. I hope you now have a better understanding of how trading in the carbon credit market can be beneficial to you.
As I mentioned before we will be financing and funding one of the projects shortly. Once I have projections on what I feel we can make from the project I will get back to you.
In the meantime please find below the link to our market research report and brochure that you will find interesting and please continue to do your due diligence regarding VERs.
http://western-field.com/downloads/WesternField-Report-2009-Q3.pdf
http://www.western-field.com/downloads/Sustainable-Forestry.pdf
Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind Regards,
Michael Marlow
Consultant
Tel: 81-3-4520-9532
Fax: 81-3-4496-6474
Email: m.marlow@western-field.com
Website: http://www.western-field.com
andy Donaldson
9 Nov 09 at 15:04
I went through the same process as everybody else, initially received a call from Omega (in New York) then a call from Jeff Spencer at Westernfield (in Tokyo) who emailed me the uninformative pdf documents & weblinks then called again today (I’m in the UK).
He spent about an hour on the phone with me before handing me to his superior as I would not agree to buy the minimum 1000 carbon credits (initially a maximum of 4000) at €6.36 with an expected return of over €11.00 in 4 months time. Sounded to good to be true for somebody to waste an hour of their time (and mine) trying to sell me the deal of a lifetime. If the deal was this good they should have people queuing up at their front door and would not need to waste so much time trying to get me, a total stranger, to buy their carbon credits. Surely it would make more sense for them to buy all the credits themselves so that they can make a huge profit themselves instead of the 3% commission they claim to get. I guess if they get all of your money with no returns then that’s even better returns for them.
All they need is one sell a day to clear a neat €6,360.00/day, I could certainly live on that although I wouldn’t be able to live with my conscience!
I have no proof it’s a scam but after reading all the previous comments I am really glad I did not buy!
Sceptic Investor
24 Nov 09 at 14:39
Hello
I am very sorry that I have not seen this website before.Like too many others I have bought Additron Tech. First time it was Thomas Castle, next time it was Davis Mayer.Last week I got a Phone from Freemann Wealth Management Company ,they send me a tender offer, I could get 7 times the payment I had given for the shares.But I had to send them A de -retriktion fee of 9250. dollars.Fortunately enough
I thought it was to good to be true.I asked a danish broker, it is he who has led my to this website .
The homepage is http:// http://www.fwmgtco.com.
I hope this can help others
Johnny Hansen
25 Nov 09 at 17:21
Hi Johnny,
See also the “arnaque artemis” blog, where many victims of these guys are reporting. Seems that the same gang of fraudsters are popping up with new names, new “companies” and “fantastic opportunities” from time to time.
Buzzman
28 Nov 09 at 10:46
and by the way, just google around : fwmqtco is already blacklisted by Australian authorities…
Buzzman
28 Nov 09 at 10:50
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29 Nov 09 at 16:18
Got a couple calls in the last week from Amy Michaels. Not a particularly convincing spiel, but I respect her persistence …
MR
11 Dec 09 at 7:16
The scam still lives but in a new packaging. After portway capital was blown wide open as a scam the new company is now “Private Equity Capital” and the new deal of the century is “Zoacell” shares. Search “zoacell” at http://www.complaintsboard.com and weep. Ongoing trial in Austria but the money seems to be gone.
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28 Apr 10 at 10:33
And hear a new name for the list.
Palatine Financial.
They called me yesterday with exactly the same approach as Novantae Capital Holdings a few years back.
SS
20 Aug 10 at 20:52
Scam artists are getting more sophisticated and more annoying. Good job we can discuss such things on the internet, shame its always after the event though!!
Nic Windley
10 Oct 10 at 13:15
Fantastic stuff – Many thanks for posting that advice, I believe that it basically answers my concern.
Josef Dehm
22 Oct 10 at 3:52
Beware :
Another new “company” that calls people now :
Camelot advisors.
They pretend to be located in Hong Kong.
Have fun with them when they call !!! (Finanstilsynet has already defined them as illegal…).
scamkiller
14 Feb 11 at 15:59
Has anyone out there bought Nexis Holdings shares?
PJ
9 Mar 11 at 9:46
Hi scamkiller
Is there anything you can share on Camelot Advisors !
Regards
anaconda
anaconda
28 Mar 11 at 17:30
anaconda says:
April 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm
WARNING To All
It Seems the Boiler Room Scammers have developed a new MO.
They have created WebSites using Official and Authority sounding names such as REGULATORY BOARD, REGULATORY COMMISSION, EXCHANGE COMMISSION, etc.
They claim to be “very interested in receiving any complaint about the capital markets, including allegations of fraudulent firms, illegal practices, illegal insider trading, market manipulation and inappropriate actions of market participants including registered brokers and reporting issuers. If you think a company has treated you unfairly in an investment related transaction, you may file a complaint online.”
I would strongly recommend you file complaints ONLY with your LOCAL POLICE to avoid further unnecessary difficulties.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
Regards
anaconda
anaconda
16 Apr 11 at 17:17
The post makes me to think. This is really puzzling, hmmm…
forum grafika
5 May 11 at 21:08
and now… Magnis Global.
Pretend to be in Shanghai.
Seek to fool people about some “Gold Mining Companies” merger or acquisition, “fantastic opportunity”.
scamkiller
8 Jun 11 at 16:42
Be careful of MIG Bank as trading conditions there is not correct and artificial jumps, mostly during evenings and nights, which don’t exist in other brokers. Those jumps are big enough to kill your positions by SO. Any complaint to them will fail as they are presenting their story as right one. Please don’t be amazed by their size and rating and avoid to do mistake we made.
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27 Jul 11 at 21:51
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